流产概念

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一个游戏在最终稼动之前会经历很多变化,比如说UI的改变、收录曲的变化,有的时候甚至整个界面都推翻重做。

本页面列出的,也就是BEMANI的那些游戏在最终发行后流产的各种概念或者想法,包括移植曲。

本页面收录的资料包括以下的内容:

  • 某首曲子预定会收录在某一个机种,然而最终却被推迟、被挤占,甚至最后根本没有移植。
    • 例如TËЯRA的曲目《masquerade》曾预定移植到beatmania IIDX 20 tricoro
    • 但是请注意一点:这首曲子必须是已经在游戏数据当中出现的(因此《Zenius -Ⅱ- Mother》虽然也满足条件就不能列在这)。
  • 曲师个人专辑发行时间的推迟。
    • 例如Asaki的专辑《天庭》因为作者本人伤病推迟两年发布。
  • 仅在家用版出现而从未移植到街机的谱面,或者通过对HDD解包能找到的曲目数据。
  • Pop'n Music的废弃角色。

beatmania

beatmania

  • According to Kiyoshi Mizuki on the beatmania press mix book, at the very beginning of the development of beatmania, the game had three buttons per player. There was only one turntable, which was shared between both players.
  • The January 1998 issue of the MyCom BASIC Magazine (マイコンBASICマガジン) includes a screenshot of an early version of beatmania:
    • beatmania is referred by its working title, DJ BEATS.
    • Most notably, the notes are rounded, and the notes on the black keys are gray instead of blue.
    • The judgment line is absent.
    • Only one GROOVE GAUGE (named GROOVE LEVEL) is used, even if two players are present.
    • An audio visualizer graphic is shown below the GROOVE LEVEL gauge.
  • beatmania was first unveiled to the public at the AM Show 1997 event. While it retained the GROOVE LEVEL gauge and audio visualizer from the above-mentioned screenshot, the notes were changed to the same shape as the final version's ones, although a bit thicker.

beatmania 2ndMIX

  • The April 1998 issue of the Famitsu magazine includes a screenshot of an early version of beatmania 2ndMIX, which also shows the audio visualizer graphic from DJ BEATS. It is currently unknown if this graphic was present during development of beatmania 2ndMIX, or if the screenshot is just an updated version of the aforementioned DJ BEATS' image.

beatmania 5thMIX

  • During the beatmania 5thMIX -Time to get down- location tests, each song had a separate, unique title card, much like beatmania 4thMIX -the beat goes on-. This was removed in the final release due to memory issues, but were later posted on the game's official website.
  • SKIN / CHARLOTTE
    • 这首曲子的数据可以在beatmania 5thMIX的HDD数据当中找到,但是它始终没有收录在beatmania系列,反倒是几个月后收录到了beatmania IIDX 3rd style

beatmania ClubMIX

  • A hidden developer comment states "TRUE NAME IS MIRAI MIX", hinting that this may have been the game's original subtitle [1].

beatmania featuring DREAMS COME TRUE

  • A hidden developer comment states "LAST DJ MAIN BORD BEAT DCT", meaning this may have originally intended to have been the last beatmania game on the BEMANI DJ-MAIN hardware (or potentially the last beatmania game at all). The BEMANI DJ-MAIN board would not be discontinued until the release of beatmania THE FINAL two years later [2].

beatmania THE FINAL

  • According to composer Naoki Maeda, birdman was supposed to be a collaboration between him and SLAKE, which would've marked the first and only time in BEMANI the two worked together on a song. The demo version, which Naoki composed by himself in preparation for the collab, ended up used in the final game instead.

beatmania IIDX

beatmania IIDX

  • The March 15th, 1999 issue of Gamest shows a screenshot of an earlier build of beatmania IIDX where the scratch notes are thicker than keyboard notes, and the judgment line is absent.
    • Another screenshot shows a different song selection screen, with different fonts and without song titles.
    • The Mode Select screen shows Practice (練習), EASY, and NORMAL modes instead of 4KEYS, 5KEYS, and 7KEYS modes, respectively.
  • GAMBOL》的ANOTHER谱面
    • 该曲在beatmania IIDX 11 IIDX RED CS具有ANOTHER难度的谱面,在ANOTHER难度下CLEAR SLAKE组曲就可以解锁。这个ANOTHER谱面至今没有配信到街机,倒是与该谱面类似的判定方式以隐藏指令的方式出现在DJ TROOPERS家用版

beatmania IIDX 2nd style

  • Shake was nearly cut from beatmania IIDX 2nd style, as sound director dj TAKA was upset by the death of double member Sachiko, who died months before 2nd style's release. He changed his mind when he thought the song matched too well with his vision of 2nd style to scrap it.

beatmania IIDX 4th style/5th style

  • Hitch Hiker2》的DP ANOTHER谱面
  • According to Ryu☆, he submitted sakura storm for a second Musicianship Trial, similar to how his song starmine won the first contest. The second contest was cancelled, and the beatmania IIDX staff wouldn't announce winners for a second one for two more years in beatmania IIDX 9th style, when vocalist flare and musician Sho Maruyama won. (Coinidentally, Ryu☆ and fellow first Musicianship Trial winner kors k returned to IIDX in 9th style as well.)

beatmania IIDX 6th Style

beatmania IIDX 8th Style

beatmania IIDX 15 DJ TROOPERS

  • An English language version of the eAMUSEMENT login screen is present in the data, along with the translated graphics from beatmania IIDX 14 GOLD's U.S. location test.

beatmania IIDX 16 EMPRESS + PREMIUM BEST

beatmania IIDX 18 Resort Anthem

  • A copyright screen for North and South America is present in the game data, hinting that an American release for Resort Anthem was considered. This screen is also present in the data for beatmania IIDX 19 Lincle unchanged, presumably left over from the previous game.

beatmania IIDX 20 tricoro

EXPERT MODE

Although tricoro was the first beatmania IIDX game to not have EXPERT MODE, graphical data for this mode on the MODE SELECT screen can be found unused in tricoro's HDD. However, no further data for this removed mode has been found, so it is currently unknown if it can be forced to work by hacking.

masquerade / TЁЯRA

  • Sound and HDD data for the song exists in tricoro, but it has no notecharts and was never made playable, being the only unused song with sound data that didn't appear in any of the following IIDX games. This might be attributed to its composers, NAOKI and jun, both leaving KONAMI in early 2013.

No volume 2 of the tricoro ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK album

  • The beatmania IIDX 20 tricoro ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK Vol.2 album was never released; the closest thing to it is the second disc of the beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK containing the remaining tricoro songs, but the release's product page never mentions that it is the second volume of the tricoro OST. The long versions of the tricoro songs that made it to the beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK caused long versions of some SPADA songs to be delayed due to lack of space (some of them made it to the beatnation RHYZE vs HARDCORE TANO*C album).
    • The final cutscene of the ぼくらの宇宙戦争 event mentioned a final battle against the joker villains to be coming soon, which further suggests that a true final event for tricoro was planned. This final battle only happened almost two years later, in beatmania IIDX 22 PENDUAL's Qpronicle Chord event.

POINT ZERO's overlays

  • Placeholder graphics for overlays for POINT ZERO can be found on the tricoro HDD. As the dummy images used as placeholders only show numbers, it is currently unknown if POINT ZERO's jacket was based on the scrapped overlays for the song.

灼熱Lost Summer Dayz / DJ Mass MAD Izm* vs DJ YOSHITAKA

  • The original sequel to 灼熱Beach Side Bunny, titled 灼熱Lost Summer Dayz and made by both DJ Mass MAD Izm* and DJ YOSHITAKA at the time, was supposed to come out in Summer 2013 according to DJ Mass MAD Izm* himself, however nothing came out of it; it was likely the initial final boss of the クプロ・ミミニャミ・パステルくんのみんなで宇宙戦争!! event. This was supported by data of a collaboration song between both artists found on pop'n music Sunny Park, with said song's ID being replaced by Zirkfied afterwards. A reworked sequel of 灼熱Beach Side Bunny involving only DJ Mass MAD Izm*, titled 灼熱Pt.2 Long Train Running, would then appear two years later on beatmania IIDX 23 copula.

beatmania IIDX 21 SPADA

未使用的结算画面图片

Spada†leggendaria活动似乎本来在计划中具有八首曲目,除了现行的7首以外还存在一首“更上级”的曲目(OMES担当)。而在SPADA的HDD当中,同样存在一张七把剑在Spada†leggendaria集齐的图片(右图),上面有着“Spada†leggendaria - SECRET MUSIC UNLOCKED”的字样。推测这首曲目应当代表该活动中并未出现的王者之剑Excalibur。但是最终,这首曲目并没有出现,使得SPADA成为了7th style以来第一个没有OMES专用曲的机种。

曾有人推测该曲是后来在Qprogue登场的《Broken Sword》,但这种说法因为证据不足最终被证伪。

beatmania IIDX 22 PENDUAL

Chrono Chaser

Chrono Chaser was going to have a more regular cycle, as Say YEEEAHH and Reflux, made available late in June 2015, could be found in the HDD as early as November 2014. Negative reception of Chrono Chaser's extremely vague unlock system likely put the event on a long hiatus. After PENDUAL, beatmania IIDX went back to having secret extra stage events like LIMIT BURST and Spada†leggendaria.

Unfinished overlays

  • Despair of ELFERIA's boss overlays data contained unused sprites for a second form; they look identical to the last form of 煉獄のエルフェリア's boss, except colored differently.
  • 共鳴遊戯の華's LIMIT BREAK boss attack sequence was going to feature every joker villain, as images showing their names were found in the overlays data. The data also contained an unfinished sketch image of Lopica (共鳴遊戯の華's main boss character).

beatmania IIDX 23 copula

Mystery Line

Mystery Line's medal list in the files contains additional, unobtainable medal entries that had the same unlock requirements (unlock three Mystery Line charts) for up to nine more songs, suggesting the event was supposed to be longer.

Planned collaboration

L.E.D. announced a collaboration song with 黒猫ダンジョン before copula's release, but it never saw the light of the day; Tomosuke's only appearances in copula were crossovers.

beatmania IIDX 27 HEROIC VERSE

Double BEGINNER

  • Text related to Double BEGINNER can be found in the game data. However, this difficulty has never been available in an arcade title, and only a handful of songs have had Double BEGINNER charts in CS titles.

Fire Beat

  • Full data for Fire Beat exists inside the game, including charts, keysounds, a generic video assigned to it, and a listing inside the game's music ID database. It is speculated that the song was intended to be added alongside an event challenging players to beat top-ranker DOLCE.'s scores on the song; the event was held using beatmania IIDX ULTIMATE MOBILE instead. The song was later available for play on beatmania IIDX 28 BISTROVER.

SHADOW REBELLION.VI and VII

SHADOW REBELLION.VII未使用的结算画面,左一的Q-pro即是野增菜雫的形象。
  • SHADOW REBELLION is the EXTRA STAGE system of beatmania IIDX 27 HEROIC VERSE. It was originally planned to have eight parts, but it was later modified to have seven instead. After resuming the event in June with STOIC HYPOTHESIS, the next part was originally set to be イリィガル・ベイス・メディスン. This song was mistakenly revealed on the game's official website for a short period of time in July 2020, which was when it was scrapped and replaced instead by the seventh SHADOW REBELLION song, 魅惑のYUMMYスイーツ. The reason for this change is unknown.
    • This is evidenced by the unused results screen for SHADOW REBELLION.VII, which shows the Pastel-kun Q-pro from 魅惑のYUMMYスイーツ in front and the six other SHADOW REBELLION Q-pros behind it, including Shizuku Yamashina (who was the character for イリィガル・ベイス・メディスン).
    • The modification date for the results screen of SHADOW REBELLION.VII is much earlier (July 2020) than those of VI (August 2020) and FINAL (October 2020), implying that the plans were changed around July 2020.
    • Dummied out data for イリィガル・ベイス・メディスン's Shizuku Yamashina Q-pro parts can be found in the game.

beatmania IIDX 28 BISTROVER

  • LEGGENDARIA charts for NΦ CRIME can be found unused in the BISTROVER HDD.

BeatStream

DanceDanceRevolution

DanceDanceRevolution 4thMIX

  • Early concept art showed different songwheels, one of them eventually was used in 5thMIX, and another in UNIVERSE.

DanceDanceRevolution 4thMIX PLUS

  • According to an interview by Aaron Chmielowiec (from the website aaronin.jp) with a former DanceDanceRevolution staff member, DanceDanceRevolution 4thMIX PLUS was going to have its system upgraded to allow for 60 FPS instead of the usual 30 FPS during gameplay. This idea was not implemented until the next release as the developers wanted to have a more stable engine with less bugs.

DanceDanceRevolution 5thMIX

  • According to an interview by Aaron Chmielowiec (from the website aaronin.jp) with a former DanceDanceRevolution staff member, DanceDanceRevolution 5thMIX was going to include SOLO stepcharts, but the idea was cancelled due to negative feedback from players.

DDRMAX -DanceDanceRevolution 6thMIX-

  • Mockup screenshots showed songs from previous mixes, which were cut in the finished product as well as a different song banner for NORI NORI NORI.
  • Freeze arrows also had a judgement of Freeze!.
  • According to an interview by Aaron Chmielowiec (from the website aaronin.jp) with a former DanceDanceRevolution staff member, the screen filter option introduced in DanceDanceRevolution X was going to appear in DDRMAX. However, the graphics team didn't like the idea of the artwork being covered.

DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME

  • As the first DanceDanceRevolution game to introduce the MARVELOUS timing judgment, it was originally intended to be used in all modes. However, negative feedback towards its usage in location tests resulted in the idea being scaled back. In the final release, MARVELOUS only appears on courses.
  • Early in EXTREME's development, there were several rounds for fans to vote on a BEMANI crossover to add over to the game. Nominees included Across the nightmare, Cat Song ~Theme of UPA, DJ BATTLE, FLOWERS for ALBION, Morning Music, THE SAFARI, Threshold Lebel, Waza, and WITHOUT YOU AROUND. The winning song was Across the nightmare, and to date none of the other nominees have ever appeared in another DanceDanceRevolution title.

DDRMAX -DanceDanceRevolution-

  • Unused data for NEMESIS can be found in the data.
  • The demo featured no foot-scale, just like its arcade counterpart.

DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME CS (America)

  • The beta showed a interface resembling the arcade version, as well as featuring dance characters from Party Collection.
  • Sweet Sweet ♥ Magic was going to be featured on this game. It made it into the following game instead.
  • Information for White Lovers can be found in the game's data, but is otherwise inaccessible.
  • References for One More Time by Daft Punk can be found on the DanceDanceRevolution master song list. While it never appeared in that series, it later appeared in REFLEC BEAT.

DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX

  • ULTRAMIX was initally planned for the PC, and was meant to be a sequel to DanceDanceRevolution (PC). Screenshots of this game resembled more of its predecessor, and featured a new cast of dancers. However, it ended up shifting development to the Xbox, and the overall design was re-worked. This may explain why ULTRAMIX had very few new songs, due to its development.

DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX2

  • Early concept art featured a songwheel similar to that of the previous ULTRAMIX.
  • Early gameplay videos showed EMI using LADY's body and a more revealing outfit.

DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX3

  • Drivin' appeared in a screenshot in ULTRAMIX3's website, and later in ULTRAMIX4's manual. However, the song finally appeared in DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA, suggesting the Japanese arcade team wanted the song to debut in the arcades first.

DanceDanceRevolution ULTRAMIX4

DanceDanceRevolution UNIVERSE3

  • Senses was originally going to appear in this game until it got replaced by its remix.
  • It also appears that Alice's music video was going to be used in-game as evidenced by the jacket using a still from said video.

DanceDanceRevolution HOTTEST PARTY

DanceDanceRevolution II

  • The game initally used the classic 1-10 scale on its development, and lacked CHALLENGE charts.
  • There are some placeholder graphics and sounds from the previous game as well.

DanceDanceRevolution (PS3)

Changes from E3 2009 version

DanceDanceRevolution (PS3) was announced at E3 2009. What was shown was drastically different from the final game. The interface resembled more of DanceDanceRevolution X2, and had dance stages and characters in it. It also featured Octo-Mode which made it into the final game, but only on CHALLENGE charts. It was also to feature custom themes, Edit Mode and DLC from all the mainline arcade games up to this point. While the DLC made it into the finished product, the song packs were based on the US PS2 releases instead. The songlist was also based on DanceDanceRevolution HOTTEST PARTY3 as well.

DLC packs

Evidence for several DLC packs that were planned but never released can be found in the game's data, including Greatest Hits packs based on the following DDR CS games:

DanceDanceRevolution EXTREME2

  • In one of the trailers for this game, there was a different interface shown alongside from what was shown in the final game. The interface resembled that of Dancing Stage Fusion. This may imply that Fusion's interface might've been the original/ beta interface for this game instead.

DanceDanceRevolution SuperNOVA

  • MAX.(period) and Colors Midihead's Sapphire Mix were slated to appear in the game, as evidenced by the master songlist.
  • Mockup screenshots show songs that never made it into the final game, most of them were from the ULTRAMIX series.

DanceDanceRevolution Disney Channel EDITION

DanceDanceRevolution X2

  • In an article, a picture from the game showed a dance stage that never made it in the final game.

GuitarFreaks & DrumMania / GITADORA

jubeat

jubeat prop

KEYBOARDMANIA

MÚSECA

Pop'n Music

pop'n music 6

pop'n music 9

  • the KING was planned to be in the game, dressed up as either a chef or fast food employee. He never made it to the final version of the game.

pop'n music 11

Planned URA charts

References to 3P palettes for risette, SANAE♥chan, and S・8・TARO can be found on the Pop'n Music data, named with the same preffix for the 3P palettes used in URA charts. Of these three characters, the latter two have, besides their respective portraits, proper colored sprites as well. Those can be seen in this video.

pop'n music 18 せんごく列伝

EXPERT MODE and planned theme

Much like beatmania IIDX 20 tricoro mentioned above, Pop'n Music 18 せんごく列伝 was the first Pop'n Music title with no EXPERT MODE since its introduction. However, graphical data for this mode can be found on the HDD, revealing that the original theme for Pop'n Music 18 was city/town based, not unlike TUNE STREET. This suggests that EXPERT MODE was dropped early on the game's development.

There is placeholder data for EXPERT MODE courses, which uses THE MOVIE's courses, further suggesting that the mode was dropped before the final theme was decided.

pop'n music Sunny Park

  • Sunny Park场测时曲目是没有横幅的,不过后来考虑到依靠横幅找歌的玩家,实际稼动时又恢复了横幅。

pop'n music うさぎと猫と少年の夢

  • According to the second page of this うさぎと猫と少年の夢 article, the game was originally going to have a diner theme, not unlike pop'n music 9's café one, before the staff went with a steampunk layout.
  • A placeholder image for a new portrait for SHOKO can be found among the Pop'n Music うさぎと猫と少年の夢 characters. However, given that there are no placeholders for her new animations in the data, it would likely recycle either her fragments or リメンバーリメンバー animations.

REFLEC BEAT

REFLEC BEAT groovin'!! Upper

  • Real / Aya
    • Sound data for this beatmania IIDX song can be found in the game's files. Its internal ID is the same one used for 男々道, indicating it was supposed to appear as part of the 8th Set (PHQUASE's SELECTION) of the BEMANI MUSIC FOCUS unlocking system, but was replaced.

SOUND VOLTEX

SOUND VOLTEX III GRAVITY WARS

DJ YOSHITAKA Song Remix Contest

On October 19th, 2016, it was announced that a remix contest involving songs composed by Yoshitaka Nishimura was planned to be held. [3] To date, there has been no other news or mention of the contest and it's been speculated that it has been scrapped entirely.

ミライダガッキ FutureTomTom

Planned songs

Albums / Contests / Etc.

cyber beatnation 2 -Hi Speed conclusion-

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